Ferny Unfiltered The Podcast - Vedic Astrology
Ep: What the stars & Vedic Astrology say about these challenging times
What’s it about?
In this episode, Ferny interviews Stephen Kohn, a professional Vedic Astrologer. They dig deep into this more accurate and precise form of ancient astrology. Stephen also goes into detail about what the trends and patterns look like in reference to the Covid-19 (Corona Virus) epidemic.
Prime listening
9:19 – What is Vedic Astrology?
16:12 – Vedic Astrology uses and Purposes 22:15 – Current Stock Market Trends
34:00 – Bitcoin and Global Currency
43:40 – Donald Trump
50:49 – Covid-19
1:01:51 – Mini-Vedic Astrology Reading for Ferny
Stephen Kohn
Stephen is a practicing Vedic Astrologer who hails from the Washington D.C. area. As a mystical academic and classically trained engineer, he entered the field of Astrology from a spiritual and scientific perspective in order to clearly understand the truthful nature of this subject. The quest for accuracy lead him to Vedic Astrology (Jyotish) due to its astronomical and dharmic integrity. As a Vedic Astrologer he meditates and practices yoga on a daily basis so that he may be in the best state of body, mind and spirit in order to assist his human (and non-human) family. He offers a variety of readings in order to help his clients understand and work with the astrological forces which influence their lives.
Stephen’s Links
Website: https://karmaastrology.com/814-2 Instagram: www.instagram.com/karmaastrology
Full Transcript of episode
Ferny [00:00:37] Hey, everybody. You are listening to Ferny Unfiltered, where we dive into topics that enlighten, inform and entertain the soul. My name is Ferny, I am your resident psychic, medium and spiritual teacher. And I would like to welcome you to this episode where we are going to be speaking to Stephen Kohn, who is an incredible Vedic astrologer and just overall well-rounded human being. So I want to welcome Stephen to the podcast. Hey Stephen.
Stephen [00:01:05] Hey, Ferny, thank you very much. That's very kind of you.
Ferny [00:01:10] Absolutely. So we met. Well, we I actually found out about you through your mom. So I was at a Christmas party and for some neighbors and I ran into your mom at that party and we were just chatting and chatting and chatting. And she mentioned you and I had been wanting to have a. I wanted to have my chart done because I'd never I'd never heard of Vedic astrology. I'd never I'd never knew what a Natal chart was. I didn't know any of that stuff, but I had heard about it just recently prior to that conversation with her. And then she brought you up and said, yeah, yeah, my son did you know, does was like, well, I got I want it, you know. So I was excited to talk to you. And then we actually had a session and you just, you know, blew me away because there was so much information that comes through in a session with you about the trends and patterns and what this part of my life is going to look like and what may show up at this point. So there was a lot of stuff that you kind of gave me to chew over. And after that, I was like hooked. And you were you were actually you were the first person who I went to. And then I had someone else who gave me a session with another astrologer. And honestly, like, it's I really enjoyed yours. let's just say, because I think I could relate to you more. And also I think you covered some specifics that it wasn't just about the numbers or the stars or anything like that. There was way more in-depth about it. So I really enjoyed your session. So what is Vedic astrology? Because a lot of people may not know what the heck that is. I mean, people open that like they open the paper, right. And they see the astrology component of a newspaper. And then I go, I'm a tourist. And then they read whatever generalized statement it says or what is Vedic astrology in comparison to that?
Stephen [00:03:01] Well, that's an interesting question. First of all, I had a fantastic reading with you as well. I think it really hit home for me, too. I get a lot out of giving readings to people. It feels like it feeds my soul in a certain way. So that was a particularly good one. I felt really good about that. But yeah. What makes Vedic astrology unique and different from what we would call astrology or Western astrology, as we do in the West is that first of all, it comes primarily from the Indian culture. As in India. And it incorporates actually a lot of the aspects of Western astrology in it, as well as Persian astrology. And it kind of makes a conglomeration of all of these practices in order to get a little bit more of a full picture. There's certain techniques that are used in Vedic astrology that are different from what we're familiar with in the West to when we go to see a Western astrologer, when you check out the paper. And it's it's very interesting. There's. So basically that all all astrology really does kind of stem from these ancient cultures at kind of the end of the last of the Great Flood and Vedic astrology comes from the Indus River Valley, civilization, which is where we think of. Yeah, it's in Pakistan, northern Pakistan. And that's basically the whole Indian subcontinent and that whole culture and how it evolved and grew and incorporated, you know, looking up at the sky and seeing the stars and seeing, you know, recognizing certain moving stars versus the stationary ones. And then moving stars turned out to be planets. And so they described these planets differently in different ways as they experienced them psychologically and noted them over time scientifically. And but it really does incorporate a lot of the same principles as Western astrology. There's a lot of exchange of ideas from ancient Mesopotamian civilizations, which is where Western astrology started and how it kind of moved from ancient Sumer, which was really they used it as a clock. They use the stars as a clock and to map out these twenty four to twenty six thousand year cycles of time that we would call a great year. And then it moved into Babylonian astrology where they got more into the science. And what they meant and eventually it made its way through Hellenistic or Greek astrology. And that's what we would commonly call Western astrology today, is that Mesopotamian oriented 12th sign and Zodiac astrology. But the Indians actually. Oh, sorry. No, no. Go ahead. Go ahead. I was just going to say that Indians actually created or took that 12 signs and incorporated into their zodiac as well. So it kind of it's it's very similar, but it use it. There's a couple of things that delineate it from from Western astrology.
Ferny [00:06:16] So it's kind of like a fusion of the different structured belief systems that they kind of brought together to create a system around.
Stephen [00:06:26] Definitely, yeah. I think, you know, the Indian culture is very rich in. In truth, you know, they want to find the truth and that Dharma is what they call it. And so they are you know, it's a very scientific mindset that that's open to other cultures and other perspectives. While at the same time trying to refine and find that that truth within all of these different practices. So, yeah, there's there's astrology that comes from China. And Persia, modern day Iran and Egypt and Greece. And so all these techniques, you know, are swimming around the Indian subcontinent and exchanging ideas. Right. There is a lot of refinement in and through these exchanges of cultures, cultural ideas and practices.
Ferny [00:07:16] Well, you know, I've been I've been doing readings and sessions for people for I want to say almost a decade, a little over a decade, probably. And it's taking years for me to recognize patterns whenever I encounter energy. Because when you see someone or you read someone, there are certain traits, certain qualities, and the energy that you're reading around them that tends to formulate or tends to bring together trends or patterns that would tend to be the case. And I keep my mind, is kind of blown when I think of how these ancient peoples had to. This probably took hundreds, if not thousands of years to put together just to recognize and see all of the different patterns with the different traits and the different circumstances that occur that occur in people's lives because of the placement of the stars and the timing of someone's birth and all of that. So I'm on my mind. My thinking is it's. It took so much time to put that together.
Stephen [00:08:15] Oh, yeah, totally. I think so, too. You know, not only were these people studying it morning, noon and night with their spiritual practices in India and, you know, they talk about how this information was given down from the Ricci's or the holy people, the people that were in the Himalayas meditating daily and and how they would experience this and see it over and over and over again. And I'm sure that that, you know, it's very similar in the in the Greek culture. And then Babilonia, you know, all these different civilizations where the different astrology, astrological practices come from. But, yeah, they it's been developing for about five to ten thousand years. So a lot of a lot of thought. A lot of reflection and experience, I'm sure went into, you know, creating this what I call a science in the first place.
Ferny [00:09:13] Mm hmm. Were you always interested in Vedic astrology or were you doing something else prior to this? And how did you become interested in this?
Stephen [00:09:21] You know, it's funny that you ask that. I start off, you know, I I was an engineer in college. I was always very technically minded, a math person. Not I mean, I liked writing and, you know, expressing myself creative creatively through words. But math always seemed like it was more definitive. And so it was a little more natural to me in the beginning. And then. I as I've gotten older and you can actually see this in my chart, that I've been more attracted to the kind of metaphysical aspect of the world, the end. And so I think that there is for me personally, I kind of came in as a big skeptic. I was very unsure. I was, you know, this astrology B.S., I don't know. And so I. But, you know, I was actually listening to. And this is going to sound might sound funny, but I was listening to really famous channeler Barbara Marciniak, who channels a crew with engine entities called the pleaidians from the Pleiades. And so I was listening to. I got really turned on by this by this channeling and. And after listening to a number of them, she started to mention or the pleaidians through Barbara Marciniak excerpts. I mentioned the fact that everyone needs a basic working understanding of astrology. It would be very useful to each of us at least to have that end. And I said, oh, really? Do I really have to, like, look at astrology at all? No. You know, and so I got up, I went online and, you know, I did one of those, like, twenty dollar print outs. And I was like, actually, well, there's some truth to this. And then I, I started going down the rabbit hole a little bit more, one step at a time. And eventually I one of my good friends, Michele May. She's a tarot card reader and she's in the band, The Makeup, which is a DC band. But she told me. Have you ever checked out Vedic astrology? You know, I think if you're interested in astrology, I think there's a little more, you know, groundedness to it. And so I said, all right, I'll check it out. And once I got my first Vedic reading, it blew me away. I was just a believer from then on it. I said, oh, my God, I have to study this because it just hit all these different aspects of my personality and my life. And just like to the core, I was I was dumbfounded at how specific it was and how accurate it was for me. So that really and then once, you know, once I got that kind of first inkling I was in I was all in to Vedic astrology because I just really think it it's a little more pure. It's a little more true to the core of astrology, at least in this day and age. And I can expand upon that in a little bit, if you like.
Ferny [00:12:18] Yeah. Well, yeah, that that actually is my next question, because I win when I'm doing a reading. I'm basing it off of my own mental processes, my own understanding, my own personal intuition with Vedic astrology. I mean, it is a numbers game. You're kind of playing you're utilizing a system that is established and is kind of it's a very black and white system in a way. But there's also a level of interpretation that goes along with that, which is, I guess, where you come in.
Stephen [00:12:46] Totally. Yeah, I think I, I agree completely. You know, there's there's this Aries energy and Mars in Aries will act a certain way. But there's so many other things going on, you know, that one of the things we get confused about in Western society or, you know, in that Western mentality, whether European or American, is that I am my sun sign. And that means that I am a cancer through and through. I'm compassionate, I'm open hearted, blah, blah, blah. But, you know, where's my moon? Where's my Mercury? Where is Mars in the sky when I was born? Where are all these other planets? I'd like to say they're in Vedic astrology we use 10 different planetary indicators or 10 different indicators, including your ascendent to really show the diversity and of a personality and how we're all unique individuals that have a unique composition. And and this really is reflected in the sky at the moment of our birth.
Ferny [00:13:50] How long did it take you to learn this system? Because it I by nature, I'm not a numbers person. So even just trying to do basic math, like I get, like, my brain. How did you how long did it take you to really understand and figure this system out?
Stephen [00:14:07] You know, it's it's a lifelong process of learning. I think that's that's one thing that every astrologer will tell you, is that you. You just there's so much data. There are so many different techniques. There's so many different opinions and all on top of that, all of the, you know, the logic and the details that go into it, that I think it's a lifelong practice. But I've been practicing for about five years now. And I would like to say that, you know, I'm definitely no longer a beginner. But it does take a number of years just to kind of warm up and to start to understand. And for me, I personally am an obsessive type of researcher. I love to study. I love to learn. And so I just get me behind a book or a computer screen or whatever method of learning I can do. And, you know, I'm there. So it it definitely takes a long time to really start to understand how everything works together and synthesize. But I think, you know, you can jump in and get a basic understanding within like a year, maybe two years.
Ferny [00:15:19] I've had many clients who, for example, my my Indian clients, who they still practice the tradition of arranged marriages. And in some instances, they will not enter into a a marriage if the astrology doesn't look good. And they have to have it done prior to them entering into the relationship, which is I mean, I guess if you want to put it into practical terms, like I'm not going to enter into somewhat into a marriage with someone if they've got bad credit, you know, they've got bad credit and their points are bad. I'm not going to go into that. So I could see this in a very, I guess, spiritual or energetic way. It's like you get with this person, this is going to create like this kind of scenario and you'll start to experience this. How often do you utilize the system of astrology to kind of figure out what you're going to do next or what something looks like, whether it's your interaction with another person or with someone who you're going to do business with? How often do you actually tap and utilize the system?
Stephen [00:16:24] I as much as possible and it can get really complicated for me personally. I like to. I really like to. You know, it's really nice to have the backing of the stars in whatever you do to find auspicious timing, as we call it. And there's an auspicious time to get married and an auspicious person to be married to. For each of us. Right. So and we can see that I mean, just jumping into the relationships aspect of it. It's fascinating to see how much the Indian astrology that the astrology that's unique to India has been focused around marriages and arranged marriages and and making sure that your karmas are, like you said, compatible enough so that you can, you know, you know where you're going to get along with this person and you know where it's gonna be a little difficult. And so we all need to you know, I think that there's definitely. And it just depends, you know, in this day and age, it's with online dating and everything so quick, so spur of the moment it can. It's I think it's a good backstop. I think it's definitely a good thing to check to just to, you know, see what your compatibility looks like. Astrologically, I mean, and what we do is really we look at the moon and we look at Venus. And because the moon is the planet of connection, Venus is the planet of relationships and mutual respect, mutual harmony. And so we really see, like, OK, how am I really going to relate to that person? Can can they hold space for me? Can I hold space for them? Are am I expressing these qualities that are, I guess, defined as masculine? And does that other person have receptive qualities to match or you know or are we both have. Do we both have these strong, masculine or feminine aspects to us as well? As you know, it goes well, well beyond masculine and feminine. But that's just some of the ways that we look at relationships. But, yeah, in terms of auspicious timing, it's I think it's really useful. I even do a little trading of stocks and and whatnot and Bitcoin. And I like to place my trades actually around auspicious times. And I like to look at the charts of different things. And you can really just dove into any aspect that you're interested and, you know, maybe even the most auspicious time to to put your seed in the dirt in your garden. So there's all our you know, for there's just so many ways that it can be applied that I think it's kind of fun in a way, just to experiment and to see the results and to write it down. And then, on the other hand, to really like experience the benefits of it.
Ferny [00:19:16] Have you ever had an experience where you you saw what it was looking like in the numbers and you were like, oh. And then you went ahead and made a decision and then you were like, I am so happy that I made a decision I made based off of what I was seeing.
Stephen [00:19:32] Oh, yeah, definitely. Definitely. I that is especially when it comes to trading, like I said, when it comes to, you know, your finances and everything, you you really feel the benefits are the detriment of your actions. And. And I can definitely tell and I've, you know, plans something out. It's it's just like anything if you do the prep work. If you think about it, if you make make a plan, it's more likely to follow through. And then if it's you know, you can still get married at an auspicious time. You can still get, you know, be with someone that's difficult, that has difficult, you know, what we'd call Kouta scores or which is the compatibility scores. But. And and you can understand through talking to an astrologer what not how to deal with that or just experiencing it. You know, it's like, OK. My wife doesn't like it when I do this. Oh, there. My husband doesn't like when I do that. And so. But it definitely helps. It helps a lot. And I've noticed it big time. Big time. And my clients have too they've, wow, it's pretty special, too. I mean, on the other hand, nothing is an exact science, you know, or there's so many factors that you have to be careful and you have to be cautious and and look at things very deeply. And and. And also, I don't personally like to be responsible for or tie my karma too much into my clients. So I don't like to give too many predictions as much as probabilities. And then let the people decide what they want to do, because ultimately we have to make our own decisions. And. And I find that actually some of my clients come back to me just to affirm that what they are feeling is what's going on in the sky. And it just lays, right? Yep. That's what I'm feeling. And I'm glad I'm on the right track. You know, it's so I have all sorts of different experiences with different people who have different desires around, you know, predicting the future. Understanding, you know, compatibility and all the issues.
Ferny [00:21:39] I think I 100 percent agree with that. And coming from my field, it it's so important when because I deal with a lot of clients who've been to psychics or mediums and specifically psychics who the psychic tells them what to do. And obviously they base their decision process making process on what that psychic said and they do it. And if it didn't go well, you know, that responsibility, they automatically place it on the psychic. And what I try to do with my clients is I'm like, look, I'm here to tell you what I sense not to tell you what to do. Like you're responsible for your own life. You have to make the decisions that you are comfortable with. I am giving you an energetic forecast of what's to come, the probabilities of what's to come, what's likely to occur. But you can change things if you want to. And I think people have this this perception that something is set in stone or they don't have a choice, that they are forced or have to go with what their chart says or with what I'm predicting or I'm sensing. And I know like I'm here to just give you what I'm sensing, not to tell you what to do. And I agree with you. I think a lot of my clients will come to me. They want of affirmation for what they're already feeling, which I'm happy to provide, if I can, and say, wow, yeah, I'm kind of seeing this or, you know, I'm not really seeing, you know, that happening for you. But, you know, that doesn't mean you should stop. Keep moving in that direction. But you might need to get a little stronger in that intent.
Stephen [00:23:02] Yeah, totally. Yeah. And it's really good. You know, it's very wise on your part not to mix your karma in there.
Ferny [00:23:10] Yeah. So speaking of the stock market, because we've got everything up in an uproar right now, we got Covid 19. And that's kind of thrown everything into a synchronistic chaos. What have you been noticing or what patterns have you been, you know, gauging from the science there about the the first of all, about the stock market, because we were just talking about that and then we can jump over to Covid.
Stephen [00:23:36] Sure. Yeah. Well, basically, what I'm really seeing, it's it's pretty clear astrologically is that. What happened recently is that Pluto, Saturn, Jupiter and Mars all went in to Capricorn. And what that means is basically Capricorn is is the sign. It's the most I would say it's probably the most rational, security oriented sign it. Capricorn deals with our ability to stay safe and to protect ourselves and the things that we love for a very long period of time through careful planning and and very rational thinking. It's a very tactile, rational, realistic oriented sign. So all and that being said, what we do in astrology is we say, OK, this planet is moving through this sign. Therefore, it's projecting or it's almost acting as a lens for the energy of that section of the sky. Where Capricorn is. It's not just the stars of Capricorn, but it's all of the energy, all of whatever is around it. In others, as the distant stars, we don't see there's above and below the sign of Capricorn, but it's really coming through there. And the planet is acting as a lens because it's so close to us. It's this gigantic object that is really close to Earth compared to anything else in the frickin universe. Right? I mean, the nearest solar system is light years and light years away, whereas these planets are right next to us. They're in our our group are our neighborhood. And so when what that shows is that this energy of Capricorn is kind of getting projected through Pluto and Saturn and Jupiter, and it was through Mars at the start of this whole thing. And basically, I can tell you, Pluto is more of a Western astrology planet. We don't really use it too often in Vedic astrology. But that's one of the areas that I find fascinating and useful and interesting. You know, it exists. It's there. I'm interested in studying it. So from a Western perspective, they'd say that Pluto kind of acts like Hades, it's the undertaker. It's almost like this. Phoenix like energy for our ego, where our ego kind of gets crushed and destroyed and brought down. And then we kind of rebuild ourself from the ashes. We rise up. And so Pluto coming into Capricorn will say, OK, I'm going to crush you financially. I'm going to crush you in all of these logistical and all these very rational and practical things. If you haven't been doing them, you're gonna go through a little evolution. Your ego's going to take a shot. It's gonna be painful. You know, whenever the ego gets hurt, it's you know, we really identify with the ego. It's hard not to. And so it feels like, oh, my God, I'm getting crushed by this. And now I need to, like, rebuild, rebuild, come back up out of the ashes and grow. So Pluto's there. Saturn has a similar energy and it's a little different. We say that center rules Capricorn. So it has that practicality and the seriousness. But, yeah, Saturn is about our commitments and making things last a long time. So it also deals with our nervous system in the body. And so when we don't take care of our, you know, ourself mentally, we get nervous. We get anxious. When when Saturn comes around. So if we're not paying attention to where our money is for perhaps or our assets or these things that are really tactical things that support our lives very firmly, if our actions aren't clear and concise and and logical, if we're not committing to a long term course of action that's going to provide stability in our lives. Then Saturn will make us pay the price in Capricorn. So it's kind of like all of these things. Jupiter, on the other hand, will be expansive and Jupiter is the planet of expansion, hope, meaning and inspiration. In a way, it it kind of gets us to see. You know, rise beyond them out of the mundane and see the bigger picture of what's happening. So there's this all this insight happening now to where we're like, oh, wow, maybe I should turn to like the most practical teachers that can teach me the most logical things so I can be pragmatic and realistic and revise, you know, what I was doing before and recommit to things that are going to really give me a sense of security in the long term. And so all these these energies are all together and they're very slow planets. Jupiter is going to be in Capricorn for the next year. Saturn, two and a half years. And Pluto, nineteen years. Oh, my God. And believe it or not, the last time Pluto entered Capricorn was when we entered the American Revolution. So there's yes. There's a lot of Revolutionary War.
Ferny [00:28:45] All right. OK.
Stephen [00:28:48] So there's I mean, I don't mean to be a doomsayer as as much as I can be, but I. I really want to. I think people should know that it's about recommitting to a sense of security. And that means financial, physical, emotional, spiritual. So it's really, you know, Capricorn is asking us to to really commit to the things that are going to make us feel safe in the long term. And what end that is happening for everybody around the world. So right now, all of these systems that were kind of teetering on hope and confidence rather than actual, you know, stability like the stock market, for instance, is pretty much disconnected from the economy right now. And and so we're trying to figure out, well, what's real, what's not, what like, you know, I want to have savings. I want to have security in the long term. But all of this stuff is getting uplifted. Maybe the dollar isn't the most safe thing. Maybe Bitcoin is. Maybe gold is. But it's you know, it's different for every person and the lessons that they're going through and what they're learning. But I think there's there's a lot of that kind of pressure. Saturn equals pressure. So a lot of pressure and stress being put on us right now just to do the right thing to make it last longer.
Ferny [00:30:14] It's interesting. You bring up. Well, go ahead. Go ahead.
Stephen [00:30:16] Oh, I was just going to say, in terms of Covid, I think that's the physical manifestation. Right. This if you've been working on your health and you've been struck, you know your vitality. If you're eating well, if you're taking care of yourself, it's you're probably going to be OK. But, you know, if it it's difficult because it you know, obviously people don't have a choice about how they're going to contract a disease or preexisting conditions. There's so many X factors. And it's and we have to be very compassionate and serious and rational about what actions we're taking. So all of these lockdowns and everything, Saturn and Capricorn in general, have to do with boundaries. And so imposing these boundaries in order to keep us safe and keep and protect the elderly, Saturn also has to do with the elderly and, you know, people that have lasted a long time physically. So, you know, are they committing to the practices that have kept them, you know, alive this amount of time and and how how much has been serious, real physical vitality and how much has been pharmaceutical vitality? You know, it's it's about like getting real and and getting down to nature and what the laws are trying to teach us and and respecting them.
Ferny [00:31:38] Well. And I that makes sense. It makes a lot of sense to me, because since late last year, when I say I think starting in October, I began switching over to a predominantly vegan lifestyle. And even though I still eat, you know, dairy and meat from time to time, it's nowhere nearly the level that I was engaged in last year. And it became this sudden, like push to just do it, do it. Do it. I was like OK? I mean, I've been a vegan before, so it wasn't like I didn't know what to do, but it just felt like I needed to do it. And I didn't really understand the reasoning for it other than just besides the pain that I was feeling when I would consume and consume flesh essentially, and animal bodies, I, I felt the pain from that energy. I just felt the energetic pain from that. And so it was becoming too overwhelming where I just felt like I had to start weaning off of that and getting away from it because it was it's like a drug when you start to consume a lot of those things. And this year, I think I'm at my healthiest since I that I've been maybe in 12 years. I mean, it's been years since I've been this healthy. So I spent total. Yeah. So I'm like, okay, well, maybe, you know. Is that reexamining of our health and our wellness and, you know, I was already doing that in a gradual way. But this whole thing has kicked up people's attention for those other people or those people who take it seriously or are taking it as something to be considered their new needs to take care of themselves or focus on their health and well-being. And it sounds like there's a trend where we're being forced to reexamine how we're taking care of ourselves and what we're used to being what we're used to doing that we're so kind of caught up and comfortable with.
Stephen [00:33:19] Yes, I agree completely. I think. Yeah, I think they're it's been the difference now is that, you know, last year while these planets were in Sagittarius where we're Sagittarius is more of this hopeful inspired sign then kind of gets us to be like, I know what the right thing to do is and I'm gonna go do it, you know, but it kind of is in that idea land that expansive, like I'm going to do the right thing kind of zone or or I'm gonna really kind of practice what I preach and then to come into set to Capricorn, you know, we get that inspiration, the natural kind of evolution of the Zodiac. Capricorn comes after Sagittarius because Capricorn is where we put those principles and those beliefs into action. And so it's like if if you were doing it beforehand, good, good on you, you know, you're gonna be OK when it goes there. You're gonna be strong. You're gonna be healthy. Even when there might be toxins in your environment, you know, and that's what that's what it says is that basically it's you know, it's go time in terms of really taking care of yourself. And if and the people who have started early are seeing the benefits already. You know, you're not getting sick as much. You're not you know, you're you're starting to see it in your body and your vitality and all these different ways that we experience healthy wellness.
Ferny [00:34:39] Mm hmm. So speaking of the market and go back looping back around to that. So last year I had a few clients who did trading as well. They were doing day trading. And some of them I kept seeing them getting way more invested and involved in Bitcoin, which is interesting because I was looking into that myself a couple of years ago. And then I got a financial adviser and he's like, don't do it, you know, let me handle this. I'm okay. Sure. Of cource some of those decisions and pan out well. But so I got out of the bitcoin stuff and. But I saw these clients who were. Getting more involved in that and I said, you know, I see you going more into Bitcoin there, like what? I don't really have an issue. Like, I don't know why. I just see you going more to Bitcoin. I feel like it's going to really take. Is going to. It's going to experience some sort of a pop or there's going to be some sort of like a resurgence of it in a different way. And ever since all of this started up with Covid and then seeing the market kind of going down and crashing here, I've been seeing this pattern where a major like organization or major government is going to switch over to some sort of a point system that would utilize a cryptocurrency like Bitcoin. And once they backed it, it was essentially going to set the stage for other countries to join in on that in some sort of a collaborative agreement that this is how it would be handled because of this one. You know, which I'm I'm thinking it'll probably be someone like China or or one of that one of the one of the eastern countries. So what what what has the charts. What do they say about like Bitcoin and like the trends of the market for like the next year?
Stephen [00:36:24] I'll tell you what I can see is that it's the same issue, it's this Capricorn, Saturn Energy, and so that's going to be two and a half years of Saturn and Capricorn. It leaves. It leaves around May of 2022. So two years from now, basically, we have to enjoy this transit. And so what that really shows, Zanten oftentimes shows the end of a commitment and the beginning of a new one. So we've had this commitment to Fiat, to, you know, to printed currency dollars yet yuan or whatever rubles. And that that scene, that that commitment, this if if Capricorn is this financial energy is kind of coming to an end. And then the reboot, kind of the beginning of the new cycle is starting this 28 year Zodiac's cycle. So we can see that, you know, there's a lot of shakeups happening. And if Saturn is coming in and putting pressure on things and, you know, if if it's a weak system, middle crumble, which is what we're basically seeing with this unlimited money printing or currency printing by the European Central Bank and the Federal Reserve. It's showing that the system's really weak and it's time for a change. And and these are the block chain technology is such a powerful technology that's taken off. And it's allowed us to kind of have a different option or a new idea around how to deal with currency and money and how to have maybe sound money or centralized or decentralized money. There's different ways to look at it. But I do see that, you know, Saturn's showing the shakeup. It's kind of putting the pressure on on Fiat dollars, on confidence, space, money and saying, oh, no, you got to get real with this. You got to make it founded. You know, a foundational principle. You have to have some sort of deep foundation behind your economic system or your money system, like we used to be on the gold standard here in the US for a long time. And we officially went totally off of that in 1971. And what gold did was gold was that ultimate money back in the day that stabilized the entire world. It didn't let countries do too much deficit spending and it and let their finances, get out of control. And have to have these mega crashes. It was more stable than it was. We'd have the ups and the downs, but they'd be there. Rohwer is we have these super bubbles nowadays because we've we've kind of thrown away the practical aspect of our currency or the practical tethering of it to something that's real, you know, which just something that's fine. And so I think these cryptocurrency's allow for something that's relatively finite, relatively tangible, even though it's in the digital world. It's, you know, with distributed ledger technology and everything. I think that people are able to the governments are looking to switch over to something because they got they got to go through this Pluto revolution. They've got to go through this Saturn pressure to or they're getting the pressure of Saturn, which is destroying what they hold dear, you know, this currency. And it's showing that we need we need something stable and in order to trade effectively and not rob people or, you know, and and it also goes the other way. If if. You know, if they centralize it enough, they can use it to control us a little bit more, and that's that's something that we should really be aware of.
Ferny [00:40:19] Well, I would think that they there could be some sort of system set up where it's kind of like I mean, we have systems of government all around the world. And, you know, it's like when you think of like the U.N., which is this idea concept that there is a collaborative in play and they're kind of working with each other and they're keeping each other in check as well. I would say that shouldn't there be like a system of currency or points based in every country where they're kind of they check each other? So essentially, there's the agreement that currency will be established by a certain measure. And let's say, for example, China comes up in there like we're going to use this, you know, and if the UK signs on or, you know, if one of the European countries signs on, then they would say, OK, well, we'll use this system, but we are going to check it by our system. And we have this agreement in place almost like a a legal binding contract, that this is how the system will be maintained to use. And so if something goes awry in the Chinese currency system, it can be checked by this additional system outside of that government. And then if you have all these different governments signed on with it and still using that same methodology, if something goes wrong in one country where something has been, you know, messed with or changed artificially, then the other systems basically will have it has to check against those other systems. And if it doesn't, then that's where the issue is and then that's where it has to be addressed. And so I would think that there would be some some sort of check and balance system setup where all the different governments around the world can essentially back up that point system or that kind of currency system because they're using each other to check and keep each other in check with the way that the currencies are being managed.
Stephen [00:42:05] Yeah. That would be that would be nice. I would. And that was what Gold served as originally, you know, as as every country had reserves of gold. And, you know, they had a certain amount of that fixed, tangible wealth that they could call upon or if they needed. And currencies are backed by it. But it's. Yes, I would be it would be very nice if that if that could work. You know, they say block chain could be used to free the entire world or enslave the entire world. How is it? It's a matter of, you know, what policies are going to be put into place in order to facilitate the trade. And. And definitely, as we get into this more and more and more globalist society, societies are you know, we're we're so global and we're connecting with people all over the world, like especially people like us who are doing readings for people in different countries. And whatnot. It's it'll be really interesting. And I think it could open a lot of, you know, fantastic gateways to be able to more easily facilitate the, you know, transfer of wealth. And but at the same time, it's it we have to keep our governments in check. We have to make sure that they're doing it in our best interests, too. So I, I have a little bit of reservation with regards to one global currency, but I think that they would also you know, it could be a really beautiful thing.
Ferny [00:43:37] So what is the what? What does Donald Trump have his own planet or is it a planetary like body or. I mean Mars I would say.
Stephen [00:43:48] He is an astronaut. Astrological phenomenon, that's for sure. Ferny [00:43:53] Huh. What do you mean by that? Explain.
Stephen [00:43:56] So if you look at his chart. I think he was born on the exact day of a lunar eclipse. So eclipses are huge events and astrology. And what creates an eclipse is basically the difference in the plane of the moon's orbit and the plane of the earth's orbit. So the Earth orbits around the Sun as well as all the other planets. And one single plane, one flat plane, and then the moon orbits the Earth in a plane, in a circle or in ellipse or really elliptical orbit. That is at a slight angle to that left ecliptic plane is what we call the earth's orbit around the sun. And so what that does is whenever the moon comes into alignment with the Earth's orbit, there's two little points where it does. One, where it goes kind of above the plain. One where it goes below. And if those two lunar points are called the nodes of the moon, the north node and the south node, and they're known to really be all about our future in the north node. And what kind of it's like a portal. It's almost like pushing us forward. And where it is in your chart shows what you're kind of obsessed with, but you're a little blinded by it. At the same time, whereas the south node is the opposite, it's actually the part that represents your past or your past lives, and it shows where you've kind of developed a very strong understanding and experience of what that energy is, maybe what that Sign's energy is, or the house in which that that sign occupy and everything. So when Donald Trump was born, he had the sun conjunct that north node of obsession. So and the sun is what we call the is really our sense of empowerment and our individual empowerment or our sense of power. And so when it's conjunct the north node that that obsessive blind obsession, it show and it's in his tenth house on top of all that, which is the house of our career, our duties. We call it the Karma bava the action house in Vedic astrology. And so what that shows is that he's kind of obsessed with work. He's obsessed with his sense of power or empowerment and his feeling of power. And he's really confused about it. So he almost doesn't understand the true nature of empowerment as being. We like to look at planets and Vedic astrology is very evolutionary principles. So the sun goes from, I have power over you. I'm strong. I can beat you up or whatever. I'm all the way to. I'm so empowered because this is my unique creative identity. This is my gift to the world. And look at all those other people out there. All the other shining stars in the galaxy. Wow. They all have their own individual gifts that they give back to the whole. And that's beautiful. And a really evolved sense of of empowerment. Whereas the devolved sense is kind of what we see in our president, where he wants to have power over other people, he wants to have authority over other people to the point in which, you know, he's talking about the government taking power over corporations. And, you know, and other things that are very scary like that. Whereas on the other hand, his his on the other side of the Zodiac when he was born on the other side of the earth or his moon and his south node. So the moon. And so the moon set. Like I said before, kind of represents our sense of compassion and our ability to connect to others. Our ability to feel for others. And very, it's our very emotional side. It's kind of our emotional mind. You could say. And to be joined with this south node, it means that he had to focus on his emotions, his feelings and his internal life when he was younger. And it was kind of irky. You know, it's a little irksome to to deal with the same thing over and over again. And his feelings and his feelings were turbulent because it was in the sign of Scorpio. So where the moon has a very difficult time in general. So, you know, in Scorpio, we deal with our insecurities, our sense of kind of paranoia or ability to protect ourselves and our feeling of the need to protect ourselves from the inside. And so when when the president has his moon in this very unstable, insecure, paranoid sign with this past life, energy and childhood energy, kind of putting this pressure on him or or kind of getting him to fix all the little details and fix all this is his faults there. It it makes him not want to deal with his emotions, not want to think about his feelings because he had to do it as a kid and he didn't want to. Doesn't want to. So he really wants to focus on this, his power and growing his power and expanding it as much as possible. And so you can really see that. And I think I can personally see these qualities in him.
Ferny [00:49:29] I think the other thing you could feel like whether whether your you know, whether you're not a fan of Trump or you are like you have to recognize that he is he's in a mindset of domination, wanting to dominate. And then the whole MO is like, let's dominate this stuff. And that's to be the first let's be number one. So it's not something that can see it. Yeah. Yeah, exactly. Well, and with it with the virus, is there like a virus planet or is there a planet. Well actually let me back backtrack that. What do this what, what is what is the astrological trend for his position of power at this time. Is he going to get reelected again or what does that look like?
Stephen [00:50:11] You know, I haven't really looked into it personally once. Yeah. You know, I haven't looked into. Yeah. With regards to the reelection, I definitely looked into it, you know, in the last election cycle with regards to, you know, Hillary versus Trump and everything. And it didn't it didn't look too great then. But. And, you know, I'm almost a little scared to look it at this time.
Ferny [00:50:38] Yeah.
Stephen [00:50:39] What else is happening in the world? It's it's definitely now that you
mentioned that it's on my radar and I'll check that out. But I haven't looked into it yet.
Ferny [00:50:47] Mm hmm. So with the virus, is there like a planet that represents illness or virus or is it what can what do was whether the stars say about this Covid 19 scenario.
Stephen [00:51:02] Sure. I think that really goes back to Saturn. If in so in Vedic astrology, we typically we only work with the inner planets for the most part. I mean, I consider myself like I said before, I like to be holistic. I like to look at the outer planets and see what they're doing, what they represent. I haven't looked into the asteroids and all that kind of mini planets that are now recently being discovered. But. With regards to health and wellness and sickness, Saturn tends to be the planet because Saturn first of all, it it's shown in our nervous system and it's a very you know, our nervous system, when it's defeated and down, is much more susceptible to allowing diseases to be to grow and be prevalent in our bodies. Saturn is that uber, rational and practical planet that wants to teach you the real tangible lessons of life. So it's it definitely deals with the physical body as well as beyond the nervous system. So when Saturn comes in and my teacher likes to say when Saturn comes around the chart, it's like an elephant going around and sitting on a different area of your life or a different, you know, energy with that specific energy. And so when Saturn is now coming into this sign of Capricorn, which is. You know, a Capricorn on a very evolved level is is kind of getting us into the preparation mindset and into the long term plan or mindset. So it shows that, you know, if we haven't been planning, you know, if we haven't been working on our health for for a little while now, then we'll be paying the consequences. So you see, like with the virus, most of the people that are that are getting injured and unfortunately passing away are people that have had preexisting conditions and people that are already kind of that haven't necessarily been the most healthy people. So it kind of shows it shows that in that regard, it it definitely can show that for any age range that you don't have to be in your 90s to not take care of yourself. And I think that it's just a sign it's it's putting the pressure on you. It's making you nervous if you're not taking care of your health right now. You know, there's signs, there's real signs like that, papers and just the whole public societal images like, you know, let's do what makes sense. And, you know, we got to put up the physical barriers, wear the masks. You know, if that's what, you know, helps us to contain it or to protect ourselves and others, you know, we got to put ourselves in isolation and and really Saturn shows that the boundaries and the walls around us. So it wants us to be isolated. It wants us to be serious and practical and. And in order to really just find a sense of peace. And the end of the day, because when we have when we've taken care of all of our responsibilities, which is set out in school to teach us, then what we can do is relax. And even when that elephant comes around and tries to smash our fort, we've built that fort out of concrete and steel rather than toothpicks and paper, you know, and cards. And I think that's kind of, you know, a symbol for or a metaphor for our bodies. You know, is your body made out of, you know, type one, a construction, which is I that's an engineering term for, you know, steel, steel buildings. Basically construction stuff is not going to burn stuff that's not going to come down very easily. Or is it built or have you made a house of cards based on. I don't know, like a house of carbs. You could say I guess or.
Ferny [00:55:06] So. So have we hit peak with the virus then, or is there like another period where we'll see more of this trend?
Stephen [00:55:18] You know, there's. I can't. I can't necessarily predict that for sure anything, but there's always what's happening right now is that we just had Saturn enter retrograde or so Saturn. From our perspective, looks like it's starting to move backwards in the sky. And what that does is it turns these physical things, these physical ailments, or that that elephant that's in our physical world, crushing us with the realities of life, is going to go internal and become more of a mental psychological crushing. Sorry for laughing. I have strong. Is a strong planet. And I have to if I don't laugh, I'm gonna cry. So. So. So it really shows that this is a period of time. The next let's see, Saturn is going to be retrograde until early September. So until early September. And Jupiter is going to back out of Capricorn two and go back into Sagittarius around June. So that's going to. I would think that it's going to wane a little bit right now, but then it'll come back with a vengeance. Not necessarily. But I think, you know, at least in terms of the things that are happening to us, this this goes for our financial system, our physical health, the virus, you know, all of these these real things. That once that kind of starts to go pro grade again or back forward will say, well, it's like your second chance. It's like, OK. Did you take care of yourself? I know you were worried the last few months. You were anxious and nervous about getting in good shape and eating well and and doing whatever you need to do with your finances. Did you do that? Because now it's your it's coming back again. That's how I kind of look at it. So it's going to start.
Ferny [00:57:13] And when does it come back again?
Stephen [00:57:15] Oh, it starts. It's programed in motion in. Let's see. Right at the beginning of
October.
Ferny [00:57:25] So it looks like you got it.
Stephen [00:57:26] Yeah. September 29. So right at the end of September, beginning of October is where it starts to get real again. And then Jupiter will enter Haberkorn a few weeks at around November late, November 24th, Thanksgiving time. And so that's going to bring a little bit more awareness and expanded perspective of things. It's gonna be like, oh, the last few months since Saturday I went pro grade was I? I know I was doing the right things. I know I was doing the wrong things, whatever way it is for you. You know, that's where we have choice. You know, it's it's like there's always there's these indicators that say that there's going to be this pressure in this aspect of our life. And that's what I see as an astrologer. But I don't see what people are going to do about it because that's up to every individual. And I'm sure that there's a million iterations of of how to deal with this type of pressure and scenario.
Ferny [00:58:23] So I would say so. So just by gauging that, because, I mean, I've had my own my own perception of what's going on and everything, and I've actually been telling people that once we get into May, once we get it May. This would continue on. And then once we get to the end of May, going into June, there's a shift that's starting to happen. So something's shifting. Something's changing. And that doesn't mean that something stops. In June, it just kind of comes up and it's there and then something's shifting away from this. And then I was I've been telling Clients that I'm like, around July or on August, that's when you start to see people getting back into what I would call the new normal, where they're kind of getting back into a mental place or mindset that this is this is done. And so I see more people traveling, more people doing stuff around July and August. So what you're describing about, you know, there is a waning that tends to come up or the tenses show up around June, seems to kind of match what I've been sensing as far as, you know, just perceptively. And I have mentioned to clients or people that there is going to be another freak out period at the end of this year. But I thought or I felt that it would be because there would be some cases, not nowhere near the level of what we're seeing now, but some cases at the end of the year. But there was also going to be a lot of flu. And because of this, people were going to start to freak out again and the companies and organizations and it's almost going to be like like a second period of like, oh, crap is starting again. Except I do feel it was going to be as intense. But I can see this all starting up again. Not necessarily the virus part. I don't know if that's going to be as intense, but I can see companies and businesses and, you know, people are starting to lock down again out of fear or out of trauma from the first experience. And that being our second chance. OK. Y'all just went through this in April, May and June. What you gonna do now? Once we get into October, November, when stuff starts coming up again, that is going to bring up this whole trauma.
Stephen [01:00:20] Exactly. I think that's pretty spot on. And now I'm looking at I'm looking at this chart right now, and the transit's, as we call them, where the planets are moving throughout time and in my software. And I see that Mars is actually going to be in Pisces. Is that. It enters in. Around the end of June, and it's going to be in Pisces until mid August, so that's around. And Pisces is the sign that actually kind of deals with travel to foreign places, foreign lands, getting out into isolation or just kind of it might even be mental travel, psychic travel, you know, other dimensional travel, maybe dreams will be more intense and perceive forseaable advantage. What not for people, but Mars is this planet of action and fire and doing something. So when Mars comes into Pisces, it will kind of push us into this traveling state of mind. This like I got to get out of here. I want to experience something new, something different. I want to trip out or whatever way as I like to do it. So I could definitely see what you're saying in the stars for sure.
Ferny [01:01:38] So before we wrap, I wanted to ask you about a weird I guess I could call it a phenomenon because I don't know what to make of it from my perspective. But maybe you do since you you know, this this is what I mean. You'd look at the stars, you this is what you study. So on. So I've been doing channeling work for several years now, for a few years now. And in this past this year, actually, it's become even more intense. And to the point where now I'm doing channeling sessions for clients and I'm doing that kind of stuff. It's not something that I'm still comfortable with, but I'm doing it nonetheless. And on Easter, interestingly enough, on Easter, I went outside and I looked at the sky and I saw Venus. I think that's. Yeah. Venus. And it was it was on the on the. Yes. And the evening. Exactly. It was so beautiful. And I was like, oh my God, it's beautiful. And I took the camera out there. I started taking pictures and I was capturing images and pictures of Venus. And I also began to feel my, you know, Asha coming through and was like, you need to you need to write. Because for the last year or two, actually for the last couple years, I've been having a lot of moments of contact from Asha. Speaking about Yeshua, which most people would know, Yeshua as Jesus, which is the character or the historical character is just known as Jesus. And when I was out there taking a picture of Venus, you know, Asha was like, you need to you need to write down begin to write down the story of what I've shared with you. And I'm like, OK. And I'm like. And it's not something I was really wanting to do because I felt I'm I grew up Catholic. You don't you don't say something about that. One of the most, if not the most important figure in Catholicism and in Christianity that is not aligned with traditional teachings. But I felt the incessant it was there. You need to write this down. Start writing this down. I was like, OK. And so I took a picture of Venus, actually posted it that evening on Easter. And I began to kind of put down bits and pieces in my notes. And then I was having a conversation with a friend one day and he asked me a question about Jesus. And I just started to go into the story of everything that I've learned over the last years about what I've been given through the channeling sessions. And after that call, I wrote it all down. I put it all down on paper, and I sat with it for a few weeks because I was like, I get it. I've got to put it to video. I've got to create some art around this book to kind of identify with this. And I didn't really do much after that. I kind of sat on it again for a few weeks. And then and then I felt the sudden urge to go ahead and work on it. And so I said, OK. So I went out and worked on it. The last stage of it was because I got it over to my one of my my editing friend, and he went to edit it down and everything. And then all I had to do was post it on medium.com as an article and I was like I'm gonna post this up and post this up post this up and it took me again another few weeks to just push myself to post it. But I said I'm going to go ahead and post it, I'm going to do it. And then I finally got around to it, finally got around to it, not even thinking about when just I sat down in the middle of the night and I ended up uploading it to medium.com on my birthday. And I didn't even realize it was my birthday that morning, which was May 6. So I uploaded this, you know, article about this character and how it's very different from what we've been taught on that day, which is my birthday. And then later on than any in that day, I realized that that night was there was gonna be the full moon, which I guess was a flower moon or the blossom moon or something like that. That happened a few nights ago. Stephen [01:05:15] I'm not too sure what the what the names are, but it was a full moon and Libra.
Ferny [01:05:21] Yeah, yeah. Yeah. And so. And then. And so I realized that there was also gonna be a full moon that night and was like, oh, there's a full moon. And I'm like, OK, this is weird. I'm like because of the timing of the first initial impression to begin working on this project. And then the timing of when I actually uploaded it, unintentionally uploaded it on my birthday. And then there was a full moon that that that evening or that night. And so. What would that was already kind of significant for that, or would there be anything that would mean anything from that?
Stephen [01:05:51] I'll tell you, I'm looking at your chart right now. And any time I've overlaid the transits over it. And it's fascinating to see that when you had that stroke of inspiration on Easter there, Venus in the Sky, which inspired you, was transiting over where your Natal Mercury or was or where Mercury was when you were born, as well as your Senate because you have mercury in the first House. And so that's. And on the other hand, the mercury in the sky was in transit directly. And these are direct transits. Believe it or not, this is this is very profound. Mercury was transmitting directly over your Natal Venus in the sky. So they were actually influencing each other. And Mercury is about speech, writing and communication. Hmm. Venus is about beauty, beauty, connection, respect. And so basically, you can see that you got that stroke of inspiration. You got that that desire, that feeling, that joy or pleasure to write, to communicate, to, you know, connect with. Whoever I guess for your case, this would be, you know, like guides beings. Yeah. And then, believe it or not, when you upload it, that on your birthday. The sun was obviously over your natal sun. That's what makes it a birthday in the sky and the moon. You are actually born on the full moon in Libra, and the moon was directly over your natal moon. So this kind of. Returning sensation, the sense of like returning to your nature as a speaker, returning to your nature as a communicator was awakened. And as a teacher for sure as well, because your moon and Jupiter are conjunct. And so it kind of felt like this natural. I would I would say I mean, just at just planetary wise. This this is your inner nature kind of coming out, your inner nature. Being affirmed, kind of, I guess, exposed and shown to the world. And this and this beautiful Libra Ariesesque sort of way.
Ferny [01:08:15] Mm hmm. Well, you know, the story and I think I remember I thought because I thought it was interesting that that happened. And I went online and looked up Venus because as I go, what the heck? You know what? Well, first of all, what star is that? I had to take out my, you know, little app and, like, find what that star was. And there was. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. It's gorgeous here. And I looked up the significance of it and some people refer to it as like the morning star. The evening star. And then I think some people refer to Yeshua or Jesus, as I think it was the morning star or something like that. But then they also talked about the devil or Satan being also like the evening star. So there's some weird correlation with the naming and the Venus and the planet. And I thought, well, that's weird. But the story that I wrote was a human story about this character, which, you know, most people want to see it from this point of perspective that is shared on the Bible texts and so forth, where, you know, you have this miraculous being, you know better than everybody here. None of us are anything like this individual and we never will be. And, you know, you should, you know, pray that you don't ever go to hell. Like, that's pretty much it. And so the story I wrote was actually about a human character who went through a lot of very human struggles. He dealt with different types of emotional struggles and he dealt with finding himself, figuring out who the hell he was, what the hell he was meant to do here, and how he was connected to everything. And so it's brought down to a human level where he made very human mistakes. But he also brought about so much knowledge and awareness in ways because of those struggles. It's almost like the struggles actually helped him to allow those that knowledge and that that awareness and enlightenment to kind of expand beyond himself to the people around him. And people always know they want to just like when they talk about Jesus in the desert before, you know, he was on the cross and he was talking to Satan or Satan was trying to tempt him. I mean, like Satan was Jesus, like he was talking to himself, like he he was a dualistic person. Now he's just like the rest of us. He was a human being who had both positive and negative attributes. And he had a inner demon as well as an inner angel. And so he was struggling with his own own shit and. Yeah. Exactly. And so the story was about him being this dualistic being like we all are. And having the same potential that we we share with him. So that was the story. And so it was weird with the whole planets and the whole I was like, what is going on here? This is all weird. I didn't. And I was like telling it, you know what? Where did they go with all that?
Stephen [01:10:59] Oh, I'll tell you it. Venus is that is the planet. It's it's masculine sign is Libra, which is the balancing scales. That's the symbol of Libra. And Venus really does represent it's it's all about equality and respect. But on a very human level, it's, you know, in Mercury. On the other hand, like I was saying, Venus going over your Mercury, Mercury it when Vedic astrology we look at these two planets is kind of on the human level there on the red Jasiek or energy exchange level, where we're kind of learning how to deal with our relationships with other people, our relationships with ourself, with our out, you know, are the polarity or the the higher self and the ego. All of these kind of dualities and finding balance between them. So I find that Venus being that planet, that planet where, you know, is it God? Is it Satan? Is it what is it? You know and it's the balance, the balancing act of life where we have to be, you know, alive in this form. We have to be here to learn these lessons. But also, we're so far beyond this and we need to balance the fact that we know that we're here now. And that's what a lot of Saturn is about. Like I've been saying, and that we're way beyond this, that we are one with everything we're connected into early in the whole. And I think Venus kind of brings that down to earth on a person of personal level where, you know, if you don't have. Respect for other people, you kind of tend to use other people and you think of them as objects. And, you know, like objectifying people, whereas Venus, the ultimate lesson of Venus is to realize that we're all wholly together and we all deserve respect even. People is, you know, distorted as as our president. So it's it's kind of. And it's hard to do that, you know, and it takes someone like the mentality of the Jesus like figure to be able to respect someone like our president. Right. But. And you can see this this balance and that like what you're talking about. And definitely Venus is there.
Ferny [01:13:17] Mm hmm. Well, for those of for those listeners who would like to have a one on one reading with you or a session with you, where you'll go over their chart and kind of explain to them what what they can look forward to or what they can try to avoid. How do people find you?
Stephen [01:13:35] They can check me out on my Web site. It's karmaastrology.com. I also am on Instagram and my handles karmaastrology and can feel free to send me an email. Get in contact me with me through either one of those channels. And I'm happy to talk to you about, you know, what I can do and what services I can provide for for whoever needs it.
Ferny [01:13:59] Well, thank you so much for being on the podcast. And you're going to be coming back. Right?
Stephen [01:14:04] But I would love to. This has been such a fun experience. It's really, really fun to talk to you.
Ferny [01:14:11] Well, we have an election coming up. And I think now that, you know, people to say, oh, my God, like, hee hee hee hee had them on there and he didn't even tell him about the election. So you're going to you're going to look into this and you're going to post it on social media. OK. Because I want people to head over to social media after they listen to this to see what you had to say about what we can expect or what it looks like for the upcoming election.
Stephen [01:14:33] Yeah, sounds good. Yeah, definitely. I'm happy to do a little exposé on it as well.
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